America is training a new army to control the world, Mohahahhahah. It’s terrifying to see something like this that could shape American society in the future. On the other hand it is just a movie and like any movie is made solely to entertainment, and entertainment is a means to get your money. And inevitably facts will be skewed, Just like Fahrenheit 9/11… “Land of the free, whoever told you that was you enemy†RATM
Shit…this is as bad as any totaliarian reigime in so called terrorist counties. Like watching hitler jugend preparing for WW3…
I really think there’s no way back now. Arm yourself to the teeth to fight these brainwashed kids as their beeing put into service to give the free world their final blow. Don’t wait for this to happen, start preparing in any way you find neccesary today. Start covert counter training so at least you have a chance to stand up to these ‘Omen-kids’. I hope my own country doesn’t plunge as deep as America seem to go now. But who knows what will happen here once we wake up from our comforting oil and natural gas pillow, and realize we’re suddenly part of the same system that brought down your culture of freedom. We have a constitution in Norway that was in large parts just a translated version of your own. Now we see our government imposing bills that violate this constitution regarding freedom of speech and socalled anti-terrorist laws. This can even unfold more easily and more quickly over here, both since we’re living in the same world, stay totally uncritical up to whatever UN or NATO wants. We’re also feeling a strong pressure from the EU, which we so far have kept on a distance. But most concerning is the allready mentioned intoxication of oil wealth that our 4.5 million population is ejoying at the moment. As a socialist state we have been conditioned all our life with state propaganda from our state controlled television. In fact it wasn’t before the beginning of 1990 that we got a second and alternative nationwide TV-channel. Also at the same time, we got a few new radio channels. This has led to a population of very thrusty people, that fail to ask questions concerning how our country is beeing managed. Even last year we had several cases of cencorship in the media, and an apathy has spread natiowide against trying to confront the ruling authorities. We se frequently evidence of coverups, unjust convictions, spying, classified documents regarding cooperation with israel, russia and USA. We have strong laws to protect corporations and political parties are still allowed to withold information about who pays for their campaigns. We are also heavily watched, and absolutely nobody care to notice this. All busses have at least three CCD’s installed and we use all the technology we can to expand this. We have adapted a lot of the regulations on terror that you guys first started, all without questioning anything. We now have a socialist government but a strong right movement is lurking close behind. They are true supporters of Bush and true haters of Muslims. The only media coverage about 9/11 in Norway have been like watching FOX News on all channels. Any attempt, and there’s been very few, have been thouroughly discredited as hoax, communism, leftism, conspiracy theorist or Muslim-lovers. For example my parents can’t even begin to grasp the thought that they are truly slaves of this society or that any government in the ‘free’ world could even be closely partisipants in a false flag operation like 9/11. Less that the true rulers are the banks and the few people that ultimately owns these. They have everything they think they need, and work pretty realxed hours in the lower governmant force as a firefighter and as a nurse. They both earn middle class salaries around UlS $100′000 a year in combined salary. with their new cars, their paid house, their big boat, succsessful kids, free hospitals, free schools and a government payed pension made of our oil fund, gives them a pretty cosy and diffrent picture of their situation than I do. All political babble seem to them to be part of the ongoing, neverending disagreements between the ten different parties that we have. Very few young people at my age even knows the basics of politics. They don’t care to study anything on their own as they are so occupied by their mobb status and to comply to their parents and their medias ideas of what they have to think and do to become a succsessful citicens. This is a society that doesn’t like bragging and think of americans as yankees and cowboys. Still they worship the very same traits in movies, but in real life when everything comes down to it, most people in Norway value modest and tolerant people, who don’t ask too many questions or make a big scene out of things. They want old style – “we are modest people, money don’t make you happy and I am not capeable of doing anything as I don’t want to stick my nose in other peoples busines’-type of thinking.
This really makes it difficult to state any profound claims or opinions here. We think we are free, but as I think more and more I understand that we will be as an enslaved nation as you are, as soon as Norway enter a situation of beeing a net oil importer by 2012. Until then, I will prepare my self to the teeth and do everything I can to inform the people. The best case scenario would be if the rest of the world oversaw us, and that we could shy away from all these new wars and police-state oppressions to come. Yet, it’s been proven in many wars that our country is of perticular strategic importance both for the US, EU and Russia. This means I must do all I can to escape this when all hell break loose. By saving all I can today, I can be able to leave this nation alone and hopefully find a less potential hotspot to spend my future in. I’m not even considering trying to defend my country, because I would never try to defend the reason why we got in this mess, and last but not least, I do not want to make the richest even richer by doing so. They can go on with their occult worshipping and do their thing with their overload of wealth, but as said, I’m not going to be part of this struggle in any way that I can avoid.
Fuck patriotism. This is only an illusion, same as any other religion. If you where born in Islamabad, you would probarbly not be a US patriot, nor would you defend it by all means. In fact chances are great that you would be anti-american and even a muslim worshipping Allah. It boils down to you and me living in a flash of time on a planet in a gigantic universe of trillions of planets, soon to be dead, and soon to be forgotten. So if you ditch your group or use it to your advantage , in order to start over in another country, that will go unoticed into the long term history. Ensure your own familys survival or only your own for that matter. Don’t expect anybody else to do it for you, and be sure to do it before your borders closes completely. Understand that you are a free person, and that you really only need a few basic rules to comply to if you want to live a good moral life.
This clip really shocked me into expressing all this, so blame the guy for posting the video and not me, if you think this was too much.
this is really scary christians are just as bad as terriost arabs they take religon to seriously its more like a guideline or understanding thats just my opinion i hate religon and government takes all the fun outta life id rather have opinions based on experince rather than what someone else feels in a situation
Wow, this is worse than terrorism. Lets teach our children to worship and join gods army? Hum…. Hey son would you like to play outside with your friends or would you like to goto church and worship a storybook character? This is just unbelievable. Religion=Druggie Those who need comfort or a fix to make it through the day or their life. You say read the bible….I say live your life making your own choices and not by following a book, or we will all be sufferers of religion. Just look at 9-11. If god doesn’t let you into heaven just praise allah or buddah, it’s almost like a buffet. You have many choices take your pick.
I CHOOSE TO CONTROL MY OWN LIFE NOT FOLLOW A BOOK.
This is a terrible misrepresentation of many many religious people around this country and give the majority of us a bad name, and thusly, more ammo for atheists to bash on religion with. Now some people in my own personal brainwashed country are taking it to the extreme and trying to fight fire with fire. Muslim vs. Christian? As predicted. Sad that people must believe that to fix the problem, one must separate the solution from the problem, while in reality, you need both. A verse in the Bible actually has an angel asking God on judgement day “should we just burn both the weeds and the grapevines? But God said ‘no’ and declared that both the grapevine and thorns must grow together on earth, and God will separate them on the last day” So many people calling themselves christian just love the title, but they surely don’t practice what they preach.
Hey Gunnar… really incredible reaction! (I couldn’t have written that much, even if I was payed to do so!)
The movie itself is not that great… but the content is shocking… in a good and bad way.
Any types of “extremist” can be bad. May it be religious, imperialist, capitalist… you name it. Too much focus is put on religious fanatics and not enough on the true people… the majority that lives peacefully. (Inner peace, that is.)
And Corey… if you still believe you have “control” over your life… well, think again. (You’ll understand sooner or later that most of your so called “choices” were dictated… not by an all powerfull invisible hand, but by powerfull minds…)
And mixing up a “God”, namely, Allah, with a prophet, Jesus and a simple man that really existed, Buddah (who simply “enlightened” people through his simplicity and peacefull way of life… and who never preached a divine power) proves that you know nothing of religion, religious people, and faith. You only state unreasonable “facts” and show no logic in your comment towards religion. People (not fanatics) who “follow” the religious texts (Bible, Quran, Torah) only see it as a rational guide to life on Earth. The Bible and the Quran (and even the Torah) limit your choices and the control over your life the same way laws do. “Followers”, or people of faith, are as free as you are to live their life to it’s full extent.
These people are not crazy. Most of them are hardworking honest folk who made a conscious decision to follow Jesus. It only makes sense that you try to raise your kids with the same beliefs.
I may not agree with their methods, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong. And you might be surprised at how many of these evangelical/pentecostal christians there are around the world.
Let me quote Jordan Collier of The 4400: ‘We’re not a threat, we’re salvation. The world will have to deal with us.’
I can’t believe some of you people are taking that trailer so seriously. Aside from the word “army” there isn’t any talk whatsoever about actually going out, and blowing themselves up. Theres a large difference between the terrorists who kill people, and the religious who are just on fire for what they believe in.
If you believe everything you read, stop reading. That saying is true to movies/television as well. Their talk about joining Jesus’s army isn’t about doing so in present day circumstances. You all seem to think their training them with guns and preparing them to go out and evangelize the world by blowing up small parts of it. When in fact their belief is that AFTER death when their in heaven, they will come join Jesus’ army on the second coming of christ when he comes down to do away with the anti-christ. You people sit there and watch your kids act just as maniacle over a Harry Potter book, how should a book 2000 years old be any different?
So many ignorant people these days just believe everything they see. True testament to the times.
dude, if you don’t see the comparisons you need to open your mind. People, especially kids are easily impressionable, there is no telling what they will do if this shit is pounded so fundamentally in their heads… Psychology man, it is inhumane to do this to children… Let them play. Let them be merry. Then when they older, and more mentally mature, let them make their own decisions. but for now, let them play.
The music was freaking me out, I do think there are extremes with all religions and other facets of life. I probably will not see it, oh, and I don’t think I am going to arm myself to the teeth.
I’m so superly confused at this trailer. I don’t get the point of the film, at least as far as right now.
Since I’m so confused, I’m not sure if I will be agreeing to the doctrines that are going to be presented through the film.
But for sure, I’ll watch out for this and see what this is all about….
Cuz after all, there are some intersting things going on in the world and this could be one of them? Or not?!!!!
Rhea wrote,
Totally scary! Thanks for posting the trailer. I can’t wait to see it.
Link | September 12th, 2006 at 7:03 pm
Billy wrote,
wow this looks crazy. I have to see it.
Link | September 12th, 2006 at 10:49 pm
Nemesis wrote,
America is training a new army to control the world, Mohahahhahah. It’s terrifying to see something like this that could shape American society in the future. On the other hand it is just a movie and like any movie is made solely to entertainment, and entertainment is a means to get your money. And inevitably facts will be skewed, Just like Fahrenheit 9/11… “Land of the free, whoever told you that was you enemy†RATM
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 5:21 am
o wrote,
Do people really want to see a bunch of crazy christians?
It’s so fake
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 5:59 am
Gunnar Alvheim wrote,
Shit…this is as bad as any totaliarian reigime in so called terrorist counties. Like watching hitler jugend preparing for WW3…
I really think there’s no way back now. Arm yourself to the teeth to fight these brainwashed kids as their beeing put into service to give the free world their final blow. Don’t wait for this to happen, start preparing in any way you find neccesary today. Start covert counter training so at least you have a chance to stand up to these ‘Omen-kids’. I hope my own country doesn’t plunge as deep as America seem to go now. But who knows what will happen here once we wake up from our comforting oil and natural gas pillow, and realize we’re suddenly part of the same system that brought down your culture of freedom. We have a constitution in Norway that was in large parts just a translated version of your own. Now we see our government imposing bills that violate this constitution regarding freedom of speech and socalled anti-terrorist laws. This can even unfold more easily and more quickly over here, both since we’re living in the same world, stay totally uncritical up to whatever UN or NATO wants. We’re also feeling a strong pressure from the EU, which we so far have kept on a distance. But most concerning is the allready mentioned intoxication of oil wealth that our 4.5 million population is ejoying at the moment. As a socialist state we have been conditioned all our life with state propaganda from our state controlled television. In fact it wasn’t before the beginning of 1990 that we got a second and alternative nationwide TV-channel. Also at the same time, we got a few new radio channels. This has led to a population of very thrusty people, that fail to ask questions concerning how our country is beeing managed. Even last year we had several cases of cencorship in the media, and an apathy has spread natiowide against trying to confront the ruling authorities. We se frequently evidence of coverups, unjust convictions, spying, classified documents regarding cooperation with israel, russia and USA. We have strong laws to protect corporations and political parties are still allowed to withold information about who pays for their campaigns. We are also heavily watched, and absolutely nobody care to notice this. All busses have at least three CCD’s installed and we use all the technology we can to expand this. We have adapted a lot of the regulations on terror that you guys first started, all without questioning anything. We now have a socialist government but a strong right movement is lurking close behind. They are true supporters of Bush and true haters of Muslims. The only media coverage about 9/11 in Norway have been like watching FOX News on all channels. Any attempt, and there’s been very few, have been thouroughly discredited as hoax, communism, leftism, conspiracy theorist or Muslim-lovers. For example my parents can’t even begin to grasp the thought that they are truly slaves of this society or that any government in the ‘free’ world could even be closely partisipants in a false flag operation like 9/11. Less that the true rulers are the banks and the few people that ultimately owns these. They have everything they think they need, and work pretty realxed hours in the lower governmant force as a firefighter and as a nurse. They both earn middle class salaries around UlS $100′000 a year in combined salary. with their new cars, their paid house, their big boat, succsessful kids, free hospitals, free schools and a government payed pension made of our oil fund, gives them a pretty cosy and diffrent picture of their situation than I do. All political babble seem to them to be part of the ongoing, neverending disagreements between the ten different parties that we have. Very few young people at my age even knows the basics of politics. They don’t care to study anything on their own as they are so occupied by their mobb status and to comply to their parents and their medias ideas of what they have to think and do to become a succsessful citicens. This is a society that doesn’t like bragging and think of americans as yankees and cowboys. Still they worship the very same traits in movies, but in real life when everything comes down to it, most people in Norway value modest and tolerant people, who don’t ask too many questions or make a big scene out of things. They want old style – “we are modest people, money don’t make you happy and I am not capeable of doing anything as I don’t want to stick my nose in other peoples busines’-type of thinking.
This really makes it difficult to state any profound claims or opinions here. We think we are free, but as I think more and more I understand that we will be as an enslaved nation as you are, as soon as Norway enter a situation of beeing a net oil importer by 2012. Until then, I will prepare my self to the teeth and do everything I can to inform the people. The best case scenario would be if the rest of the world oversaw us, and that we could shy away from all these new wars and police-state oppressions to come. Yet, it’s been proven in many wars that our country is of perticular strategic importance both for the US, EU and Russia. This means I must do all I can to escape this when all hell break loose. By saving all I can today, I can be able to leave this nation alone and hopefully find a less potential hotspot to spend my future in. I’m not even considering trying to defend my country, because I would never try to defend the reason why we got in this mess, and last but not least, I do not want to make the richest even richer by doing so. They can go on with their occult worshipping and do their thing with their overload of wealth, but as said, I’m not going to be part of this struggle in any way that I can avoid.
Fuck patriotism. This is only an illusion, same as any other religion. If you where born in Islamabad, you would probarbly not be a US patriot, nor would you defend it by all means. In fact chances are great that you would be anti-american and even a muslim worshipping Allah. It boils down to you and me living in a flash of time on a planet in a gigantic universe of trillions of planets, soon to be dead, and soon to be forgotten. So if you ditch your group or use it to your advantage , in order to start over in another country, that will go unoticed into the long term history. Ensure your own familys survival or only your own for that matter. Don’t expect anybody else to do it for you, and be sure to do it before your borders closes completely. Understand that you are a free person, and that you really only need a few basic rules to comply to if you want to live a good moral life.
This clip really shocked me into expressing all this, so blame the guy for posting the video and not me, if you think this was too much.
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 6:12 am
random joe wrote,
this is really scary christians are just as bad as terriost arabs they take religon to seriously its more like a guideline or understanding thats just my opinion i hate religon and government takes all the fun outta life id rather have opinions based on experince rather than what someone else feels in a situation
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 6:34 am
Ahmed Mohammed wrote,
THIS MOVIE SUCK
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 6:48 am
Corey wrote,
Wow, this is worse than terrorism. Lets teach our children to worship and join gods army? Hum…. Hey son would you like to play outside with your friends or would you like to goto church and worship a storybook character? This is just unbelievable. Religion=Druggie Those who need comfort or a fix to make it through the day or their life. You say read the bible….I say live your life making your own choices and not by following a book, or we will all be sufferers of religion. Just look at 9-11. If god doesn’t let you into heaven just praise allah or buddah, it’s almost like a buffet. You have many choices take your pick.
I CHOOSE TO CONTROL MY OWN LIFE NOT FOLLOW A BOOK.
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 7:10 am
Dr.Kuhn wrote,
This is a terrible misrepresentation of many many religious people around this country and give the majority of us a bad name, and thusly, more ammo for atheists to bash on religion with. Now some people in my own personal brainwashed country are taking it to the extreme and trying to fight fire with fire. Muslim vs. Christian? As predicted. Sad that people must believe that to fix the problem, one must separate the solution from the problem, while in reality, you need both. A verse in the Bible actually has an angel asking God on judgement day “should we just burn both the weeds and the grapevines? But God said ‘no’ and declared that both the grapevine and thorns must grow together on earth, and God will separate them on the last day” So many people calling themselves christian just love the title, but they surely don’t practice what they preach.
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 8:18 am
Project Reality wrote,
Hey Gunnar… really incredible reaction! (I couldn’t have written that much, even if I was payed to do so!)
The movie itself is not that great… but the content is shocking… in a good and bad way.
Any types of “extremist” can be bad. May it be religious, imperialist, capitalist… you name it. Too much focus is put on religious fanatics and not enough on the true people… the majority that lives peacefully. (Inner peace, that is.)
And Corey… if you still believe you have “control” over your life… well, think again. (You’ll understand sooner or later that most of your so called “choices” were dictated… not by an all powerfull invisible hand, but by powerfull minds…)
And mixing up a “God”, namely, Allah, with a prophet, Jesus and a simple man that really existed, Buddah (who simply “enlightened” people through his simplicity and peacefull way of life… and who never preached a divine power) proves that you know nothing of religion, religious people, and faith. You only state unreasonable “facts” and show no logic in your comment towards religion. People (not fanatics) who “follow” the religious texts (Bible, Quran, Torah) only see it as a rational guide to life on Earth. The Bible and the Quran (and even the Torah) limit your choices and the control over your life the same way laws do. “Followers”, or people of faith, are as free as you are to live their life to it’s full extent.
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 8:36 am
SnakeJake wrote,
These people are not crazy. Most of them are hardworking honest folk who made a conscious decision to follow Jesus. It only makes sense that you try to raise your kids with the same beliefs.
I may not agree with their methods, but that doesn’t mean they’re wrong. And you might be surprised at how many of these evangelical/pentecostal christians there are around the world.
Let me quote Jordan Collier of The 4400: ‘We’re not a threat, we’re salvation. The world will have to deal with us.’
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 9:11 am
angry_pedestrian wrote,
So they are perparing these kids for what again? Its ultimately about power right, power and money. Poor kids.
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 10:04 am
QuantumFluxx wrote,
I can’t believe some of you people are taking that trailer so seriously. Aside from the word “army” there isn’t any talk whatsoever about actually going out, and blowing themselves up. Theres a large difference between the terrorists who kill people, and the religious who are just on fire for what they believe in.
If you believe everything you read, stop reading. That saying is true to movies/television as well. Their talk about joining Jesus’s army isn’t about doing so in present day circumstances. You all seem to think their training them with guns and preparing them to go out and evangelize the world by blowing up small parts of it. When in fact their belief is that AFTER death when their in heaven, they will come join Jesus’ army on the second coming of christ when he comes down to do away with the anti-christ. You people sit there and watch your kids act just as maniacle over a Harry Potter book, how should a book 2000 years old be any different?
So many ignorant people these days just believe everything they see. True testament to the times.
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 10:07 am
Snakk3 wrote,
WTF?! the kids were crying and having that strange attacks…
whats wrong with you people?
stop the religion… in some way it can gives you hope and confidence, but… it also gives you lot of WAR
Link | September 14th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
bah wrote,
dude, if you don’t see the comparisons you need to open your mind. People, especially kids are easily impressionable, there is no telling what they will do if this shit is pounded so fundamentally in their heads… Psychology man, it is inhumane to do this to children… Let them play. Let them be merry. Then when they older, and more mentally mature, let them make their own decisions. but for now, let them play.
Link | September 15th, 2006 at 7:31 am
Chris wrote,
The music was freaking me out, I do think there are extremes with all religions and other facets of life. I probably will not see it, oh, and I don’t think I am going to arm myself to the teeth.
Link | September 15th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
KK wrote,
I’m so superly confused at this trailer. I don’t get the point of the film, at least as far as right now.
Since I’m so confused, I’m not sure if I will be agreeing to the doctrines that are going to be presented through the film.
But for sure, I’ll watch out for this and see what this is all about….
Cuz after all, there are some intersting things going on in the world and this could be one of them? Or not?!!!!
Thx for the preview
Link | September 19th, 2006 at 4:06 am